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Windows 12 - Microsoft starts work from March

No, it's not a typo. According to our information, Microsoft will start preparing for Windows 12 in March. In the run-up, they had already been looking for employees who would then provide additional support to the team. SwiftOnSecurity also confirms this information.



That doesn't mean that we'll see a new Windows 12 tomorrow. This can still drag on, since you start (almost) from scratch. One can assume that the Windows 10 substructure will then be completely abandoned. Windows 11 still has this substructure.

That means in plain English: What you started with Windows 10 X, to do everything new, is then really implemented in Windows 12. The latest changes in the Insider already show where the path is going. Leave old " camels " aside and only implement current things.

PS: The information from SwiftOnSecurity that two TPM modules are then required is of course a joke. But if you start now, also for the Pro, you need an internet connection and later also an MS account, you can already imagine in which direction things are going.

The core elements, some of which Microsoft has already launched with Windows 11 or will launch with the fall 2022 update (“22H2”), include:
  • Mandatory for Microsoft account in Home and Pro
  • An even stronger focus on TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot
  • Integration of the security chip “ Microsoft Pluton ”
  • Completely new substructure without the legacy
  • Take up approaches from Windows 10X


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What I can't imagine is what the world will be like in 15 or 20 years time! Will we still have computers?! People thought laptops would die out when ipads came along and they didn't. Somehow I think we will always need keyboards.
Smart phones too. Everywhere I go people have therir noses buried in their smart phones.
 

My Computer

System One

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    Windows11
    Computer type
    laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Huawei Matebook X Pro
    CPU
    intel 8250 I5
    Memory
    8gb
    Graphics card(s)
    intel uhd 620
    Monitor(s) Displays
    built in laptop display
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1280
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M2
    Browser
    Edge
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    Defender
All I can say is: "I hope they don't blow it with more disappointments!"
Yeah, me too cause knowing me I will probably go ahead and buy. lol
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows11
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    laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Huawei Matebook X Pro
    CPU
    intel 8250 I5
    Memory
    8gb
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    intel uhd 620
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    built in laptop display
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    Samsung 970 Evo 500gb M2
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    Defender
So how about this for a theory?

Windows 12 will just be a 'Pluton-enabled' fork of Windows 11. If so, then it will share the same features and lifecycle, living (and dying) in parallel with Windows 11. If true, then that may in fact be good news for those running W11 on unsupported devices. It means that MS will have no need to pull the plug, just say that unsupported W11 can continue to get updates, but W12 cannot be installed.
 

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    Windows 11 Home
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    Acer Aspire 3 A315-23
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    AMD Athlon Silver 3050U
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    8GB
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    Radeon Graphics
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    1366x768 native resolution, up to 2560x1440 with Radeon Virtual Super Resolution
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    1TB HDD
    Browser
    Edge, Firefox
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    fully 'Windows 11 ready' laptop. Windows 10 C: partition migrated from my old unsupported 'main machine' then upgraded to 11. A test migration ran Insider builds for 2 months. When 11 was released on 5th October it was re-imaged back to 10 and was offered the upgrade in Windows Update on 20th October. My SYSTEM THREE is a Dell Latitude 5410, i7-10610U, 32GB RAM, 512GB ssd, Windows 11 Pro. My SYSTEM FOUR is a 2-in-1 convertible Lenovo Yoga 11e 20DA, Celeron N2930, 4GB RAM, 128GB ssd. Unsupported device: currently running Win10 Pro, plus Win11 Pro 22H2 RP as a native boot vhdx.

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    Windows 11 Home 22563.1
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    pc_desktop
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    Banna Junior 7000 - X Series
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    Ryzen 7 2700X
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    Asus Crosshair VII Hero, X470
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    Realtek (R) Audio
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    Viotek 32" Curved, ViewSonic 27"
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    Primary Samsung 256 SSD
    PSU
    EVGA BQ 700w 80+ Bronze
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    NZXT 510
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    Stock AMD cooler
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    Amazon Generic with Cord
    Keyboard
    Corsair
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    Firefox, Chrome and Edge
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    MS - Defender
Hi there
That's now but in the not to distant future a lot of high speed Internet can be delivered cheaply by satellite avoiding need for cabling etc in rural and remote areas.

Cheers
jimbo
Satellite is very expensive and way more unreliable.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Browser
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    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
I'm not so sure about that -- I remember even back as far as W7 you could get an OEM copy if you just bought something simple like a Mouse -- the OEM version was only around 5USD compared with around 100 USD for the retail so not really sure of the validity of your argument.
I never saw any version of Windows being sold for $5.00 no matter what device one bought. I remember the one time that we had to overpay to buy an update disk for Windows to fix their mistakes. The sales of MS and OEM products may not be a big cash cow, but it is a money maker.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
Both my parents were avid silver surfers in their 80s. My Mother happily went from 7 to 10. My Father was reluctant to give up 7 and in his late 80s didn't like 10 - so he switched to an imac
God rest their souls, but my parents couldn't even set the time on the VCR let alone use a computer.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security
Well lets all hope that Putin & the World along witth China, USA and the other country's that has nuclear bombs keep their fingers off the triggers or none of us will have to worry about Windows 12, what a way to wake up & find the invasion of Ukraine this morning. Pray for Peace ...............
Chuck
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows11
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    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP HP ENVY TE01
    CPU
    2.90 gigahertz Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    Board: HP 8767 A (SMVB)
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    16214 Megabytes Usable Installed Memor
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    1511.52 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 1418.15 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
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    M 185 wireless
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    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    12 ms Jitter 8 ms Download 10.5 Mbps Upload 1.7
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    Edge & FF
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    Windows Defender
Well lets all hope that Putin & the World along witth China, USA and the other country's that has nuclear bombs keep their fingers off the triggers or none of us will have to worry about Windows 12, what a way to wake up & find the invasion of Ukraine this morning. Pray for Peace ...............
Chuck
Yes indeed. I am trying to analyse it. Does Putin genuinely feel threatened by Nato expansion further into the East - or is he just wanting to put things back how they were before 1990. Whichever, it's an act of aggression.
 

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    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
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    8gb
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    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
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    Could be better
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    Dismal
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    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd

My Computer

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    Windows 11
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    PowerSpec B746
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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I think you may be right - seems to be a personal thing between Ukraine President and Putin in something I read. Ukraine President locked up permanently, a friend of Putin's who is Godfather to Putin's daughter. And all kinds of political stuff from various people in Ukraine.
 

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    Dismal
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    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
No, but then I doubt anyone will. Run a search and try to find a desktop CPU with the Pluton architecture. I could be wrong, but there are few out there (if any at this point).
I for one will not
 

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    WINDOWS(C:)BASIC NTFS 913.42 GB /WINDOWS (C) (G) BASIC-2794.52 RECOVERY (D:) 16.85 GB?DISK PARTITION 1) ( E 260 MB0)DISK (4) R0980MB
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    desktop pc #2 PROCESSOR AMD A8-7410 APU WITH AMD RADEON R5 GRAPHICS 2.20 GHZ INSTALLED RAM 4.00 GB(3.45 GB USABLE) DEVICE ID 5c27474D-FCBA-4D)D-89E8-89E8-071DCOAB36AC PRODUCT ID 00325-80450-35140-AAOEM SYSTEM TYPE 64-BIT OPERATING SYSTEM,X64-BASED PROCESSOR PEN AND TOUCH WITH 10 TOUCH POINTS everything else as pc above #3 desktop Dell windows 10 home ver 21h1 Intel(R) Pention(R)cpu G2020@ 2.90 GHZ 2.90 GHZ 64 BIT operating System,x 64based Processor Everything else as the 2 pc's above
Anything from Official MS or even close to Official MS, direct, not via a grapevine, that's says this Win 12 is more than a twinkle in someone's eye?
 

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    Multi-boot Windows 10 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
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    Dell Alienware Aurora R6
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    Intel Core i7-7700K @ 4.20GHz OC 4.8GHz - Kaby Lake
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    Alienware 07HV66 (U3E1)
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    32GB
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti w/11GB GDDR5X & Intel HD Graphics 630
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    Realtek High Definition Audio
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    Samsung 27" Curved C27F591
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    1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz
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    1TB NVMe PM961 NVMe SSD SAMSUNG (Boot), 2TB Seagate ST2000DM001-1ER164 (SATA), 1TB Samsung SSD 850 EVO, 1TB Seagate ST1000DM003-1ER162, 1TB WD Elements 10A8 USB Device, 1TB BUFFALO HD-PNTU3 USB Device, 1TB x4 Seagate BUP Slim SCSI Disk Device
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    Blueray R/W Optical, Canon MX410 series Printer/Fax/Scanner/Copier, Altec 5.1 Speakers L-R, Mid Base Boom, Macrium Home Premium, Revo Pro, Screenspresso Pro
Anything from Official MS or even close to Official MS, direct, not via a grapevine, that's says this Win 12 is more than a twinkle in someone's eye?
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    CFL Octavia_CFS (U3E1)
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    238GB NVMe HFM256GDJTNG-831 Samsung 850 Evo 500GB
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    Mad Catz V.7
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    200 / 50
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    FF newest
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    ESET IS
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    Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 THX Certified Computer Speaker System

Strange today with all the problems in Ukraine - MS stock and in general the NASDAQ closed remarkably higher -- without delving in to the dreadful politics there probably Ms is unaffected by it all. The market is still totally unpredictable and anybody who says the can get it right most of time is disemenating a whole load of "Bovine Scatology". Even the legendary Warren Buffet gets it wrong at times. !!

Cheers
jimbo
 

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All I can say is: "I hope they don't blow it with more disappointments!"
With the last Dev build, IMHO, they did exactly that.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 11
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
    Case
    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
    Mouse
    Logitech M185
    Keyboard
    Logitech K270
    Browser
    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
    Antivirus
    ESET Internet Security

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