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Windows 12 - Microsoft starts work from March

No, it's not a typo. According to our information, Microsoft will start preparing for Windows 12 in March. In the run-up, they had already been looking for employees who would then provide additional support to the team. SwiftOnSecurity also confirms this information.



That doesn't mean that we'll see a new Windows 12 tomorrow. This can still drag on, since you start (almost) from scratch. One can assume that the Windows 10 substructure will then be completely abandoned. Windows 11 still has this substructure.

That means in plain English: What you started with Windows 10 X, to do everything new, is then really implemented in Windows 12. The latest changes in the Insider already show where the path is going. Leave old " camels " aside and only implement current things.

PS: The information from SwiftOnSecurity that two TPM modules are then required is of course a joke. But if you start now, also for the Pro, you need an internet connection and later also an MS account, you can already imagine in which direction things are going.

The core elements, some of which Microsoft has already launched with Windows 11 or will launch with the fall 2022 update (“22H2”), include:
  • Mandatory for Microsoft account in Home and Pro
  • An even stronger focus on TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot
  • Integration of the security chip “ Microsoft Pluton ”
  • Completely new substructure without the legacy
  • Take up approaches from Windows 10X


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So how about this for a theory?

Windows 12 will just be a 'Pluton-enabled' fork of Windows 11. If so, then it will share the same features and lifecycle, living (and dying) in parallel with Windows 11. If true, then that may in fact be good news for those running W11 on unsupported devices. It means that MS will have no need to pull the plug, just say that unsupported W11 can continue to get updates, but W12 cannot be installed.
Sounds like you have it figured out Bree ;)
 

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Well, reading 102 posts on the topic of an OS that may or may not ever be on any machine I own has been refreshing. My impression is that the pessimists outnumber the optimists. We've just come through the birth of a wonderful, entirely new, completely different OS that isn't any of those things. I'm with the camp that hopes (against hope) that whatever follows W11 isn't just a glorious disappointment.
 

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Good to see you on this forum @Wisewiz
 

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Happy to be here, Rod. Let's just hope the happiness holds if and when there's a 12.
 

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There has been so many rumours, but one of the more reliable said about 2 years but again it's just wait and see. we will just keep the forum warm
 

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I honestly doubt that there will be even whispers of a new OS before Windows 10 official support ends. Oct 2025. If M$ were not hell bent on making a unified OS for both touch and traditional KB&M desktops, I might have considered it - but nope. It's all one OS. and it's here to stay for a few years.
 

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Hi there
A company if it wants to stay in business doesn't wait until the current product line is dead before embarking on a new one. There's all sorts of "Theoretical things" that could be attempted in a lab with a new OS even if the hardware to create it won't be affordable for basic consumers for years --if ever. Ms would be quite stupid if it didn't have developments which even though might never see the light of day as complete products will appear in some form in future products.

If W11 really is the "last edition of Windows" then the new OS will be called something else. XP showed that even though it was great at the time you can't keep maintaining / extending an older OS as newer, more powerful hardware with many more features and more security appears.

With proper VR and A.I which require an inordinate amount of processing power and memory it can't be too long before we now start seeing 128 bit processors. There's a limit on how many processors you can have working on an MP system before the overhead of running them becomes so significant that performance actually degrades. With 128 bit processors you need less CPU's in an MP system to achieve the same object.

Cheers
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Of course they are continually working on new features and improvements of existing ones. Some may even become part of a new Windows version, some may be introduced into the current one. My opinion is that if there really will be a Windows 12, we won't hear anything official about it for a couple of years at least.
 

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Yeah, we are all just guessing and speculating but new features are always welcomed
 

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And they appear in 11 first
 

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Yeah, we are all just guessing and speculating but new features are always welcomed
I'm looking for a coffee maker extension myself!
 

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I was restoring an image today on my test machine, when the External SSD with the image on fell of the table and disconnected, couldn't boot at all so I manged it with Macrium Recovery Tool :ROFLMAO: so a good feature would be self repairing windows
 

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I was restoring an image today on my test machine, when the External SSD with the image on fell of the table and disconnected, couldn't boot at all so I manged it with Macrium Recovery Tool :ROFLMAO: so a good feature would be self repairing windows
You keep doing that and you're going to need self repairing hardware. I lost a external Zip drive years ago by dropping it.
 

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I am pleased to be here :)
 

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I was restoring an image today on my test machine, when the External SSD with the image on fell of the table and disconnected, couldn't boot at all so I manged it with Macrium Recovery Tool :ROFLMAO: so a good feature would be self repairing windows
Hi there
How about Windows self sealing repair kit --I'm told it's also good for Car windows too.

Cheers
jimbo
 

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If Microsoft built cars the owners manual would say--"In case of an engine malfunction, close all open windows and restart."
 

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