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Windows 12 - Microsoft starts work from March

No, it's not a typo. According to our information, Microsoft will start preparing for Windows 12 in March. In the run-up, they had already been looking for employees who would then provide additional support to the team. SwiftOnSecurity also confirms this information.



That doesn't mean that we'll see a new Windows 12 tomorrow. This can still drag on, since you start (almost) from scratch. One can assume that the Windows 10 substructure will then be completely abandoned. Windows 11 still has this substructure.

That means in plain English: What you started with Windows 10 X, to do everything new, is then really implemented in Windows 12. The latest changes in the Insider already show where the path is going. Leave old " camels " aside and only implement current things.

PS: The information from SwiftOnSecurity that two TPM modules are then required is of course a joke. But if you start now, also for the Pro, you need an internet connection and later also an MS account, you can already imagine in which direction things are going.

The core elements, some of which Microsoft has already launched with Windows 11 or will launch with the fall 2022 update (“22H2”), include:
  • Mandatory for Microsoft account in Home and Pro
  • An even stronger focus on TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot
  • Integration of the security chip “ Microsoft Pluton ”
  • Completely new substructure without the legacy
  • Take up approaches from Windows 10X


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@Futurdreamz imo it's not rehashing at all, it's pointing out when the updsate may occur, and that the upgrade may be free & some of it's features ! It's all speculating at this point until MS gives us something concrete !

 

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@Futurdreamz imo it's not rehashing at all, it's pointing out when the updsate may occur, and that the upgrade may be free & some of it's features ! It's all speculating at this point until MS gives us something concrete !

Windows 11 was a free update, and even Windows 10 was secretly a free update to 7 or 8 the whole time. Windows 12 being a free upgrade seems obvious.
The rumoured features include a new user interface with a floating taskbar and search bar, the integration of AI (artificial intelligence) for various functions, the possibility of removing the Control Panel in favour of Settings, the addition of animated wallpapers and the option for users to install Android apps via their APK file, among others.
the new UI was posted in this thread, linking to an article from October of last year
Microsoft has integrated AI into Bing and from the beginning declared they would integrate it into office, and os level integration is the logical next step
Microsoft has been slowly replacing control panel with the settings app since Windows 8, and has made it clear that they intended to work on it until Control panel can be entirely removed
I'm not finding a lot of information on animated wallpapers, I think I read something relevent but I don't recall what it could've been. I'll concede that this may be a rumour
The Windows Subsystem For Android has been available since Windows 10. it's available in Windows 11, and being available in windows 12 seems likely.

I'd have to check on the predicted release date, but aside from that and the animated wallpapers most of that article is clearly making very, very safe bets using information we already know; not rumors from people who allegedly have insiders information.
 

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'm not finding a lot of information on animated wallpapers, I think I read something relevent but I don't recall what it could've been. I'll concede that this may be a rumour
Edge has animated wallpapers (themes). I'm using the "Reservoirs in Kaprun in the Zell am See District of Salzburg, Austria". If this is what you are referring to, then they should be available to an OS.
 

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You do not believe it was obvious so you believe you have posted a falsehood.
If you believed it was obvious you would not have felt the need to state that it was obvious [because it was obvious].


Denis
 

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From Deskmodder....

Windows 12 - The concept of the Ignite 2022 seems to be confirmed​

In February 2022 we reported that Microsoft had started work on Windows 12 . In the meantime, it's no longer a secret that we'll probably get Windows 12 by the end of 2024.

Microsoft is keeping a very low profile. At Ignite 2022, Microsoft released a concept image of Windows 12 that could really match the end result. The floating taskbar (dock) in the picture will probably really come. This is displayed without a clock in the taskbar itself. This feature is currently being tried out hidden in the Canary Insider.

Source (original German): Windows 12 - Das Konzept der Ignite 2022 scheint sich zu bestätigen - Deskmodder.de
Source (English, Google Translate): Windows 12 - Das Konzept der Ignite 2022 scheint sich zu bestätigen - Deskmodder.de
 

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  • Microsoft is once again hard at work on building out a "modern" version of Windows.
  • The project is called CorePC, and follows the same goals as Windows 10X but with native support for legacy apps on devices that require it.
  • CorePC will pave the way to new configurations of Windows that scale up and down depending on PC hardware.
The big change with CorePC versus the current shipping version of Windows is that CorePC is state separated, just like Windows Core OS. State separation enables faster updates and a more secure platform via read-only partitions that are inaccessible to the user and third-party apps, just like on iPadOS or Android.
 

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Wondering if the leaks are planned !
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Wondering if the leaks are planned !
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I'm really hoping this means Microsoft can bring back Windows phones and 8" tablets.

...I wonder if they will do the same for the Xbox OS, leading to a modular console OS that they can allow third party manufacturers to make consoles with a licenses Xbox OS, so there can be a Lenovo Legion Xbox or an Alienware Xbox. Or to make an streaming-only Xbox that can act as a Roku or Google TV but have access to Xbox Cloud.
 

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I think their ambition is, with the aid of highly sophisticated AI processing, to bring up a paperclip that says, "You appear to be writing a letter. Would you like me to help you with that?".

Denis
 

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I heard that you need Microsoft pluton chip to use it, many machines won't have it so I wonder how long before a fix comes out :)



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I heard that you need Microsoft pluton chip to use it, many machines won't have it so I wonder how long before a fix comes out :)
I imagine you'd need a new motherboard. Or maybe we'd get lucky and Microsoft figures out how to fit it in a M.2 wifi card or PCIe slot card or some other upgradeable component. Unlikely tho.
 

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For my needs I expect that system specs be the same as Windows 11.
 

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For my needs I expect that system specs be the same as Windows 11.
You can expect whatever you want.
You have every right to expect whatever you want to expect.

All the best,
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What if there is no taskbar ?
 

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