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Windows 12 - Microsoft starts work from March

No, it's not a typo. According to our information, Microsoft will start preparing for Windows 12 in March. In the run-up, they had already been looking for employees who would then provide additional support to the team. SwiftOnSecurity also confirms this information.



That doesn't mean that we'll see a new Windows 12 tomorrow. This can still drag on, since you start (almost) from scratch. One can assume that the Windows 10 substructure will then be completely abandoned. Windows 11 still has this substructure.

That means in plain English: What you started with Windows 10 X, to do everything new, is then really implemented in Windows 12. The latest changes in the Insider already show where the path is going. Leave old " camels " aside and only implement current things.

PS: The information from SwiftOnSecurity that two TPM modules are then required is of course a joke. But if you start now, also for the Pro, you need an internet connection and later also an MS account, you can already imagine in which direction things are going.

The core elements, some of which Microsoft has already launched with Windows 11 or will launch with the fall 2022 update (“22H2”), include:
  • Mandatory for Microsoft account in Home and Pro
  • An even stronger focus on TPM 2.0 and Secure Boot
  • Integration of the security chip “ Microsoft Pluton ”
  • Completely new substructure without the legacy
  • Take up approaches from Windows 10X


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This is much easier.

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Didn't see that (y)
 

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I´m sure I´ll find all "The wrong ways" to install it. !!

Would be very interesting if most of the OS operated totally from the Cloud as it would in theory be easier to mainatin over zillions of different bits of hardware.

By the time W12 gets into any serious development work I´d imagine the most of the Broadband infrastructure would be more than sufficient and Cloud servers have got so much more resilient. Even 2 years ago in a lot of places Broadband for this type of approackh wasn't fit for purpose -- I'd imagine certainly that won't be the case in say 2 years time.

For workplaces (whether office based or remote) this would save loads of dosh in both hardware costs and I.T maintenance costs.
The downside from whatI would imagine would be the "Subscription model" rearing its ugly head again.

Anyway awaiting developments with interest.

Great seeing "Old faces" on this new site.


Cheers
jimbo
Just in my area alone, there are a lot of rural areas that don't have cable or any access to highspeed internet.
 
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My Computer

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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    ESET Internet Security

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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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If Windows can be Broke, Edwin will do it. :)
Actually, I've got 3 machines stabilized quite comfortably..., I'm not sure if I wanna fick around with any of it!!! :think:
 

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    ASUS - VivoBook
I'm not going to buy all new machines in order to have Windows 12! Windows 11 should be around until 2030, since 10 will be around until 2025. Should get me to around 94; by then I won't care about 'puters.
But I'll only be 82 in 2030 and hopefully still going strong.
 

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    DVD burner and BluRay burner optical drives
That video is very well done. Of course it's just someone's concept and the real thing would likely be very different. A lot of it just looks like more stuff I would never use. I doubt they would move things back to the left too.
 

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    DVD burner and BluRay burner optical drives
That video is very well done. Of course it's just someone's concept and the real thing would likely be very different. A lot of it just looks like more stuff I would never use. I doubt they would move things back to the left too.
yup. the concept is more well done than the real OS. :dizzy:
 
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I'm not going to buy all new machines in order to have Windows 12! Windows 11 should be around until 2030, since 10 will be around until 2025. Should get me to around 94; by then I won't care about 'puters.
Well I'll not be far off 90, if I get that far, so like you I'll probably not be bothered what I use. 😄
 

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I probably won't make it past 70 or so... so things that happen in 2030 will probably not be of too much concern to me. :-)
 

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Here we go again. 11 surely won't "reign supreme" for too long, given that it's got 10 on one end and 12 on the other. Sigh.
This should be interesting...
--Ed--
 

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    all of em
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Upon thinking more deeply about this entire Windows 12 thing, as long as I can run it on my current system and it's a free upgrade, I think I'll be okay with things.
 

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    Corsair K70
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    120MB/s Download/ 10MB/s Upload
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    Edge (Chromium)
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    Norton 360
They came out with 11 pretty quick, so who knows??
 

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    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
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    Firefox 127.0
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    Windows Defender
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    Cyberpower CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
Upon thinking more deeply about this entire Windows 12 thing, as long as I can run it on my current system and it's a free upgrade, I think I'll be okay with things.
But will it, if it needs the pluton architecture?
 

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    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
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    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
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    Could be better
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    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
Given how new it is I wonder if it's only going to apply to devices that have it and not a hard rule.
 

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    Gskill 32GB, 16GBX2 PC3000
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    Download: 350.50 mbps Upload: 12.02 mbps Ping: 15ms
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    Firefox, Chrome and Edge
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    MS - Defender
But will it, if it needs the pluton architecture?
If MS wants too, they could make Windows 12 only run-on devices that have a Pluton CPU and newer.
 

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    Windows 11
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    Manufacturer/Model
    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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