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MS has been giving free upgrades since I think Windows 8. Then they came out with Windows 11. Wanting to make Windows 11 the most secure OS possible they decided on what systems would meet the requirements and be able to upgrade. Then they got bombarded with complaints from user that had system that don't meet the minimum requirements. The upgrades were free so why can't MS choose what systems get the free upgrades and what systems don't. Windows 10 has a few more years of support so they are giving us a grace period to upgrade our computers to ones that do meet the Windows 11 requirements. I will be totally surprised if MS allows us to upgrade to Windows 12 for free. If they don't I think it's easy understand why.
My rig is pretty high end right now, but it does not even come close to meeting the new requirements that Win12 will have. So I won't be installing Win12 even if it was free.....You need a completely new motherboard that can run the new Microsoft Pluton chip (CPU) So even if Win12 IS free its very expensive to upgrade the users PC so you could run it. But I'll be interested to hear how the people like this new Win12 that do have it installed. :)
 
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    Intel Core i9-10900K @5.2MHz
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    ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Apex - z590
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MS has been giving free upgrades since I think Windows 8. Then they came out with Windows 11. Wanting to make Windows 11 the most secure OS possible they decided on what systems would meet the requirements and be able to upgrade. Then they got bombarded with complaints from user that had system that don't meet the minimum requirements. The upgrades were free so why can't MS choose what systems get the free upgrades and what systems don't. Windows 10 has a few more years of support so they are giving us a grace period to upgrade our computers to ones that do meet the Windows 11 requirements. I will be totally surprised if MS allows us to upgrade to Windows 12 for free. If they don't I think it's easy understand why.
Winuser Sounds like you really put some thought in that:)
 

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    windows Eleven Home
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    HP PAVILION DESKTOP 590-pOxxx
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    INTEL (R) CORE(TM) i3-8100 CPU @3.60GHz 3.60GHz
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My rig is pretty high end right now, but it does not even come close to meeting the new requirements that Win12 will have. So I won't be installing Win12 even if it was free.....You need a completely new motherboard that can run the new Microsoft Pluton chip (CPU) So even if Win12 IS free its expensive to upgrade the users PC so you could run it. But I'll be interested to hear how the people like this new Win12 that do have it installed. :)
I wonder if anybody knows anybody that has the Microsoft Pluton chip(cpu) :)
 

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    windows Eleven Home
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    HP PAVILION DESKTOP 590-pOxxx
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    INTEL (R) CORE(TM) i3-8100 CPU @3.60GHz 3.60GHz
    Memory
    8.00GB (7.86 GB usable)
    Monitor(s) Displays
    24W
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    WINDOWS(C:)BASIC NTFS 913.42 GB /WINDOWS (C) (G) BASIC-2794.52 RECOVERY (D:) 16.85 GB?DISK PARTITION 1) ( E 260 MB0)DISK (4) R0980MB
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My rig is pretty high end right now, but it does not even come close to meeting the new requirements that Win12 will have. So I won't be installing Win12 even if it was free.....You need a completely new motherboard that can run the new Microsoft Pluton chip (CPU) So even if Win12 IS free its very expensive to upgrade the users PC so you could run it. But I'll be interested to hear how the people like this new Win12 that do have it installed. :)
Do we really know if Windows 12 is a reality? If it is, only MS can say what the minimum requirement will be, Because of all the whining about Windows 11, I can see MS saying Windows 11 is the end of free upgrades.
 

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    Windows 11
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    pc_desktop
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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
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    1920 x 1080
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech M185
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    Logitech K270
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
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    ESET Internet Security
Winuser Sounds like you really put some thought in that:)
I had to stop though. My wife was complaing about the smell of wood burning. :ROFLMAO:
 

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    PowerSpec B746
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    Intel Core i7-10700K
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    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
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    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
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    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
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    Realtek Audio
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    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
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    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
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    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech K270
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    ESET Internet Security
I wonder if anybody knows anybody that has the Microsoft Pluton chip(cpu) :)
I read that they're just being released for AMD laptops. I'm not sure if anyone can buy one yet.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11
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    pc_desktop
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    PowerSpec B746
    CPU
    Intel Core i7-10700K
    Motherboard
    ASRock Z490 Phantom Gaming 4/ax
    Memory
    16GB (8GB PC4-19200 DDR4 SDRAM x2)
    Graphics card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 TI
    Sound Card
    Realtek Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung SAM0A87 Samsung SAM0D32
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    NVMe WDC WDS100T2B0C-00PXH0 1TB Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB
    PSU
    750 Watts (62.5A)
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    PowerSpec/Lian Li ATX 205
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    Logitech M185
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    Logitech K270
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    Microsoft Edge and Firefox
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    ESET Internet Security
This is simply a domain place holder. :)
The OP was made weeks ago, I am well aware it is domain place holder and 99% of what we post here is rubbish :)
 

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    Alienware M18 R1
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    13th Gen Core i9 13900HX
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    32GB DDR5 @4800MHz
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    Geforce RTX 4090HX 16GB
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    18" QHD+
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    25660 X 1600
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    C: Samsung 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD D: Samsung 2TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD
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    Norton
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    Killer E3000 Ethernet Controller Killer AX1650i Wi-Fi Network Adaptor Alienware Z01G Graphic Amplifier Tobii Eye Tracker
The OP was made weeks ago, I am well aware it is domain place holder and 99% of what we post here is rubbish :)
Well said Rod LoL
 

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    Custom Made
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    Intel Core i9-10900K @5.2MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Apex - z590
    Memory
    2 - G.Skill DDR4 - F4-4000C16D-16GTZRA @4000MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated ROG SupremeFX
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    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 PRO 500GB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB, WD Black 1TB Performance Hard Drive
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    Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless
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    400 / 20
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    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender
This is simply a domain place holder. :)
Yes. TwelveForums is a forum and ThirteenForums is just a redirect to designermedia.com
 

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@OldMike65 At least it's good quality rubbish :)
 

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That is the problem Mike it is all guess work. I check this site once a day as there is no windows 12 and keep my posting mainly to Eleven forums as I am not bothered about high points scores etc. I just check it because it's new
Same here as when i log in I think why not just check
 

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    Built in Samsung
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    998.88 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 911.15 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
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    Touch
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    Microsoft Dev
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    Windows Defender
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    Also have a Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 and already a member of windows 11 and was a member of windows 10 under a different name. Also have a Samsung watch 5, Samsung Series 7 55 inch TV, and a Samsung Galaxy 22 Ultra phone. And all three of these can get windows 11 and 12 so never out of touch

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    ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Apex - z590
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    2 - G.Skill DDR4 - F4-4000C16D-16GTZRA @4000MHz
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    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated ROG SupremeFX
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    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 PRO 500GB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB, WD Black 1TB Performance Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 80+ PLATINUM
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    Phanteks Enthoo Primo Special Edition
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    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler 360mm
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    Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless
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    Razer Huntsman Elite
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    400 / 20
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    FireFox, and Chrome
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    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender
You're right. There is another Windows 11 forum. :eek1:
 

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    pc_desktop
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    Stigg's Build
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    Intel Core i9-10900X
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    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
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    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
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    Realtek ALC1220
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    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
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    1920 x 1080
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    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
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    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
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    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
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    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
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    Razer DeathAdder Essential
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    Razer Ornata V2
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    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
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    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
This might be the beginning or not !! Microsoft Pluton is currently available on devices with Ryzen 6000 and Qualcomm Snapdragon® 8cx Gen 3 series processors. Microsoft Pluton can be enabled on devices with Pluton capable processors running Windows 11, version 22H2.
 

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    Windows11
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    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP HP ENVY TE01
    CPU
    2.90 gigahertz Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    Board: HP 8767 A (SMVB)
    Memory
    16214 Megabytes Usable Installed Memor
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    1511.52 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 1418.15 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
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    M 185 wireless
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    12 ms Jitter 8 ms Download 10.5 Mbps Upload 1.7
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    Edge & FF
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    Windows Defender

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