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For Win12 you'll probably need a system with an MPU if what Panos Pany said happens, about the next version having AI Integration:


A memory protection unit (MPU), is a computer hardware unit that provides memory protection. It is usually implemented as part of the central processing unit (CPU). MPU is a trimmed down version of memory management unit (MMU) providing only memory protection support.
 

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    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
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    ۞ΞЖ†ԘΜΞ۞
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    Intel Core i9 9900K
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    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
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    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD G: System Images -> Samsung 860 Pro 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 2x120 Phantek& Halo front, and 1x140 Phanteks
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
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    Trust GTX THURA
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome;
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    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as an added layer between browser & OS
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    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2 Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR

James,

I was not being sarcastic at all.

You do not seem to get it.

Windows 12 is no more than the name we use for a recently-recruited development team at Microsoft.

This forum is just for laughs at the moment. It was created, and people invited to join, just so it would be up & running by the time there was useful information to report [which might not be for years].
I'm really surprised you did not realise that from the responses to your thread How do I keep data when installing Windows 12? - TwelveForums


All the best,
Denis
 
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  • Operating System
    Windows 12 Home x64 Version 27H2
    Computer type
    laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1545
    Other Info
    Main computers remain on Windows 10
James,

I was not being sarcastic at all.

You do not seem to get it.

Windows 12 is no more than the name we use for a recently-recruited development team at Microsoft.

This forum is just for laughs at the moment. It was created, and people invited to join, just so it would be up & running by the time there was useful information to report [which might not be for years].
I'm really surprised you did not realise that from the responses to your thread How do I keep data when installing Windows 12? - TwelveForums


All the best,
Denis
Sorry for misunderstanding. I was saying I was using sarcasm in my post. And all I have said on here is a joke :D
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 12 21H2
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft would like to know your location
    CPU
    Pluton
    Memory
    1026GB RAM
Well James, Try3 is correct ....sorry.
I didn't make it clear enough.

In this post from myself I was saying I used sarcasm, and I am fully aware that it is all a joke right now
For Windows 12, I am wayyy below the specs required. That starts with my power supply! I just went into registry, tweaked a couple things and actually found it is based off of Windows 8.1
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 12 21H2
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft would like to know your location
    CPU
    Pluton
    Memory
    1026GB RAM
I do not think it's all a joke or why would @z3r010 would not go to all the trouble setting up a forum, because setting up one can be very time consuming & having the knowledge on what tools are needed !! So i don't think it's all a joke, it may be named something different but it will come !!!
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows11
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP HP ENVY TE01
    CPU
    2.90 gigahertz Intel Core i7-10700
    Motherboard
    Board: HP 8767 A (SMVB)
    Memory
    16214 Megabytes Usable Installed Memor
    Hard Drives
    1511.52 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 1418.15 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
    Mouse
    M 185 wireless
    Keyboard
    Logitech wireless
    Internet Speed
    12 ms Jitter 8 ms Download 10.5 Mbps Upload 1.7
    Browser
    Edge & FF
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender
I do not think it's all a joke or why would @z3r010 would not go to all the trouble setting up a forum, because setting up one can be very time consuming & having the knowledge on what tools are needed !! So i don't think it's all a joke, it may be named something different but it will come !!!
Everything on this thread is a joke. Windows 12 is expected to come soon! (y)
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 12 21H2
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft would like to know your location
    CPU
    Pluton
    Memory
    1026GB RAM
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  • Operating System
    Windows 12 Home x64 Version 27H2
    Computer type
    laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 1545
    Other Info
    Main computers remain on Windows 10
I agree. The next 4.75 years will just whizz by.

Denis
They said Windows 10 would be the last version of windows o_O
I honestly thought it was even sooner than 4.75 years to be honest
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 12 21H2
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft would like to know your location
    CPU
    Pluton
    Memory
    1026GB RAM
I installed Windows 11 on an Asus Eee 10" atom netbook - using rufus. Works fine! Slow at times obviously but not as slow as Windows 10 on the same netbook.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro
    Computer type
    laptop
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion 14-ce3514sa
    CPU
    Core i5
    Memory
    8gb
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 evo plus 1TB
    Cooling
    Could be better
    Internet Speed
    Dismal
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    Originally installed with a 500gb H10 Optane ssd
I installed Windows 11 on an Asus Eee 10" atom netbook - using rufus. Works fine! Slow at times obviously but not as slow as Windows 10 on the same netbook.
I’m sure, no doubt it being old, that netbook will be handy for browsing and portability
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Windows 12 21H2
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Microsoft would like to know your location
    CPU
    Pluton
    Memory
    1026GB RAM
doing a little light research on Win 12 ...I found this folks... :)

When will Windows 12 be released?

According to reports, the next major version of Windows is going to launch at some point in 2024, roughly three years after Windows 11's debut. That's all we really have right now, and it might be a while before we have any more information. If past releases are any indication, Windows 12 should arrive in the fall, or at least the second half of the year, but that's not set in stone. Microsoft has denied the reports that it's working on Windows 12, but considering we're still some time away from its launch, the company could simply be holding its cards close to its chest.

In the meantime, Windows 11 will keep getting updates, and sometimes, it may get some new features, so it won't feel like the operating system is stale. Windows 11 version 22H2 was released in September with a lot of new features including Start menu folders and new touch gestures, for example. More recently, in November, we got the first "moment" update for version 22H2, which added features like File Explorer tabs. We're expecting at least two more of these moment updates in 2023, so Windows 11 will still evolve in the meantime.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro (x64) 22H2 22621.1413
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Custom Made
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900K @5.2MHz
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus XIII Apex - z590
    Memory
    2 - G.Skill DDR4 - F4-4000C16D-16GTZRA @4000MHz
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA GAMING
    Sound Card
    Integrated ROG SupremeFX
    Monitor(s) Displays
    ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q 27 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080@165Hz
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 980 PRO 500GB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung 970 EVO SSD 1TB - M.2 NVMe, Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB, WD Black 1TB Performance Hard Drive
    PSU
    EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2 80+ PLATINUM
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Primo Special Edition
    Cooling
    Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler 360mm
    Mouse
    Logitech MX Master 3 Wireless
    Keyboard
    Razer Huntsman Elite
    Internet Speed
    400 / 20
    Browser
    FireFox, and Chrome
    Antivirus
    MalwareBytes Pro / Windows Defender
I'm betting for Win12 the "supported" CPUs will need to be:
  • CPU: Intel Tiger Lake (11th Gen) and beyond supports Control-Flow Enforcement Technology (CET), or AMD Zen 3 Ryzen and beyond that supports AMD shadow stacks.

Because of the new Kernel-mode Hardware-enforced Stack Protection they added to Win11 but on older supported CPUs that doesn't show up(like my 9900K).
 

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  • Operating System
    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ۞ΞЖ†ԘΜΞ۞
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD G: System Images -> Samsung 860 Pro 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 2x120 Phantek& Halo front, and 1x140 Phanteks
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome;
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as an added layer between browser & OS
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2 Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
I can't get Windows 12 to install on my machine.
I keep getting the same cryptic error message, "No Such Media".
Does anyone know what that means?
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11 Pro
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Stigg's Build
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10900X
    Motherboard
    GIGABYTE X299X DESIGNARE 10G
    Memory
    Corsair 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) CMW64GX4M4C3000C15 Vengeance RGB Pro 3000Mhz DDR4
    Graphics card(s)
    GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 Super Mini ITX 6 GB OC
    Sound Card
    Realtek ALC1220
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" FHD LED FreeSync Gaming Monitor (LS27F350FHEXXY)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    Samsung 970 Pro Series 1TB M.2 2280 NVMe SSD Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III Western Digital Red Pro WD8003FFBX-68B9AN0 8 TB, 7200 RPM, SATA-III
    PSU
    Corsair HX1200 1200W 80 Plus Platinum
    Case
    Fractal Design Define 7 Black Solid Case
    Cooling
    Noctua NH-D15 Chromax Black
    Mouse
    Razer DeathAdder Essential
    Keyboard
    Razer Ornata V2
    Internet Speed
    FTTN 100Mbps / 40Mbps
    Browser
    Mozilla Firefox
    Antivirus
    N/A
    Other Info
    Logitech BRIO 4k Ultra HD USB-C Webcam
I will never use Windows 12 or AI. It can be very dangerous in the wrong hands.
 

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  • Operating System
    Win 11 Pro 26100.863
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Digital Storm Velox
    CPU
    Intel Core i9-10940X
    Motherboard
    MSI X299 PRO (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
    Memory
    128 GB DDR4 3200 MHz Corsair Vengance LPX
    Graphics card(s)
    EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti Black
    Sound Card
    Integrated Motherboard Audio-Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    CORSAIR XENEON 32QHD165
    Screen Resolution
    2560 X 1440
    Hard Drives
    1x SSD M.2 (1TB Digital Storm M.2 Performance Series)(Crucial) 1x Storage (2TB Seagate 1x Samsung 860 Pro 1x 1TB Samsung 860 EVO External Storage
    PSU
    Corsair / EVGA / Thermaltake (Modular) (80 Plus Gold)
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    VELOX
    Cooling
    H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex Liquid CPU Cooler (Dual Fan) (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
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    Corsair NIGHTSWORD RGB
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    Corsair Strafe RGB M2
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    1000Gb's Down-20 Up
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    Firefox 127.0
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    Windows Defender
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    Cyberpower CP1350AVRLCD -UPS
I will never use Windows 12 or AI. It can be very dangerous in the wrong hands.
Hi Josey, you do know you have been using AI for the last 10 years or so?
Search engines, email spam filters, translators, antivirus ie:
  • Heuristic-based detection: Heuristic-based detection is similar to signature-based detection in that it scans incoming files and programs for matches to known malware. However, while signature detection looks for exact matches, heuristic detection looks for similar tendencies or patterns in a file’s code. As a result, it catches malware that signature detection may have missed.
  • Behavior-based detection: This form of detection examines how files and programs act, looking for anything out of the ordinary.
The latest on the scene are LLM's(large language models).
AI is just a generic name from past science fiction.
I feel they should stick to the term "Machine learning" as "itelligence" scares some people, yes semantics is everything;)
 

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    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ۞ΞЖ†ԘΜΞ۞
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD G: System Images -> Samsung 860 Pro 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 2x120 Phantek& Halo front, and 1x140 Phanteks
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome;
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as an added layer between browser & OS
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2 Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
All of my computers run Windows 11, but two I had to do a tweak to. my old thinkpad has a tpm chip but unsupported cpu, and my htpc has no tpm. If push comes to shove i'll switch them to linux as I don't want to be running obsolete software. I'll switch my desktop and future computers to windows 12 when it comes out, though
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11
Right now, it's all up in the air, as to just what Win-12 will look like, and what the conditions and stipulations for hardware will be. But one thing is certain, just as soon as some code it written at MS, it's gonna get leaked, and the aftermarket programmers will start working on making 12 run on every PC that is running 11 today. I'd bet a Jefferson on it.
I've seen it happen, over and over again.

Those boys at MS, to keep their jobs, have to come up with something that looks Fresh and new. The big blue thingy on Win-11 was a neat twist, but how many people had that "GONE in sixty seconds". I know I did!

Every OS that I've ever used, was built on top of the one that preceded it. If you drill down through Win-11, you'll undoubtedly see some really old code. Probably a few DOS commands floating around in there. There always has to be a "Disk Operating System".

Love the new forum. Thanks guys!
TM :cool:
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 11/Pro/64
Well it looks like Intel is getting ready for Windows 12 with Meteor Lake and the built in NPU(Nvidia RTX cards already have AI capabilities.)



 

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  • Operating System
    Win10 Pro, Win10 Pro N, Win10 Home, Windows 8.1 Pro, Ubuntu
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    ۞ΞЖ†ԘΜΞ۞
    CPU
    Intel Core i9 9900K
    Motherboard
    ASUS ROG Maximus X Hero
    Memory
    32 GB Quad Kit, G.Skill Trident Z RGB Series schwarz, DDR4-3866, 18-19-19-39-2T
    Graphics card(s)
    ASUS GeForce RTX 3090 ROG Strix O24G, 24576 MB GDDR6X
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Webcam C270 (2) NVIDIA High Definition Audio (3) Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    BenQ BL2711U(4K) and a hp 27vx(1080p)
    Hard Drives
    C: Samsung 960 EVO NVMe M.2 SSD E: & O: Libraries & OneDrive-> Samsung 850 EVO 1TB D: Hyper-V VM's -> Samsung PM951 Client M.2 512Gb SSD G: System Images -> Samsung 860 Pro 2TB
    PSU
    Corsair HX1000i High Performance ATX Power Supply 80+ Platinum
    Case
    Phanteks Enthoo Pro TG
    Cooling
    Thermaltake Floe Riing RGB TT Premium-Edition 360mm and 2x120 Phantek& Halo front, and 1x140 Phanteks
    Mouse
    Trust GTX 148
    Keyboard
    Trust GTX THURA
    Internet Speed
    25+/5+ (+usually faster)
    Browser
    Edge; Chrome;
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender of course & Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit as an added layer between browser & OS
    Other Info
    Router: FRITZ!Box 7590 AX V2 Sound system: SHARP HT-SBW460 Dolby Atmos Soundbar Webcam: Logitech BRIO ULTRA HD PRO WEBCAM 4K webcam with HDR
One thing for sure, when Windows 12 finally gets here, there will be a whole bunch of guys and gals very disappointed, that their old PC's won't run it. But that's when the after-market hackers, crackers and programmers will step in and knock the nastiness out of 12 like they've done with 11. No thanks to MS at all, I'm running Windows 11 on six PC's that in NO WAY conform to MS's compatibility check. At least one of my PC's was originally built in 2008.
The ONE big thing that any PC has to have to run Win-11, is a 64 bit capable CPU.
I have several more PC's that are great little machines, but alas, they have only 32 bit capable CPU's.
However, they can run Windows 10/Pro/32 just fine! When properly tweaked and tuned, Win-10, 32 will look and run just like Win-11. ;)
Win's 10 and 11 are, after all, kissing cousins, and share a lot of under the hood code.
As far as running Programs, one is as good as the other.
And, just for grins, I make them all look just like Windows 7.

TM :cool:
 
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  • Operating System
    Windows 11/Pro/64
I used Rufus to install W11 so will do the same with W12 if I have to, I hope.
 
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  • Operating System
    Windows 10 + 11 Pro x64 Dual Boot
    Computer type
    pc_desktop
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware® ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme 3.49 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 x58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM
    Graphics card(s)
    GeForce GTX690 Dual Core GPU
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung® XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 X 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 X 500gb SATA 1 X 1TB SATA 1 X 3TB eSATA LaCie External (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® (Thermaltake ToughPower) 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling
    Cooling
    Alienware® Predator II
    Mouse
    Logitech Performance MX
    Keyboard
    Logitech K800
    Internet Speed
    WiFi 1000mbps Unlimited Up & Down
    Browser
    FF, CH, Edge
    Antivirus
    Windows Defender with Malwarebytes Premium as an optional scanner. Ot
    Other Info
    Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID too fussy and temperamental. In AHCI. Also onboard is a Fax Modem, which is supported in Windows 10. Win 11 installed using a USB stick made using Rufus to bypass incompatibility issues.

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