Speaking of really dumb forums....
I was asked to be a moderator on the old and original Windows 8.0 forum. It was totally overrun with hackers, spammers and crazies.
I and one other Moderator were kept busy just banning the spammers, etc. That forum was about as bad as Windows 8.0 itself.
I was actually glad, when that forum was taken down. I wonder if a copy of Win-8.0 even exists today. Not here!
We were all praying for Windows 9.0, which of course never happened. Windows 8.1 was like a totally new OS, nothing at all like its predecessor. I still run 8.1 on all my old x86 laptops.
I suppose as a computer enthusiast, and hobbyist, I should be excited by the idea of Windows 12, but actually, not so much. Right now, I'm just enjoying the heck out of Win-11.